May-1st-2003, 09:36 PM
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I have left JC. If my deletions disrupt continuity, please accept my apology, but JC is no longer the place to be, as far as I am concerned.
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May-1st-2003, 09:48 PM
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We are the only reality
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Just watched it.
Enthusiastic response from the military on board the ship, who will now be going home, having vanquished the enemy.
No surprises.
Small bit about the ones who won't be coming home and the predictable mentioning of one of the dead, by name and the heart-warming call home, not to brag, but to tell his folks that he loved them, a few days before he died. Apparantly, they are to meet again, presumably in heaven.
Typical twaddle, with pauses for applause. Photo-op, extraordinaire.
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May-1st-2003, 09:52 PM
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Happy 50th, Alaska!
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Yeah, and just before (predictably) uttering his favorite God bless all of you, and may God continue to bless America, he quoted scripture from Isaiah.
Bank on seeing footage from today's events in his re-election campaign.
I think I'm gonna ralph!
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May-1st-2003, 09:53 PM
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Loved it. Brought a tear to the eye. He's framed the Battle of Iraq perfectly as part of the continuing war on terror. He's got the correct agenda, a bold agenda. God bless 'em. And I can't wait to welcome these troops back home with a cold beer.
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May-1st-2003, 09:58 PM
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We are the only reality
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Originally posted by Monte Smith
Loved it. Brought a tear to the eye. He's framed the Battle of Iraq perfectly as part of the continuing war on terror. He's got the correct agenda, a bold agenda. God bless 'em. And I can't wait to welcome these troops back home with a cold beer.
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Can't help wondering when lightening bolts will smite him for constantly commanding God to bless America and, apparantly curse the rest of the non-American world. God must be the most patient entity ever, to put up with being told what to do, by Mr. Bush.
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May-1st-2003, 10:06 PM
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I don't even think we have a vocabulary in common that would allow me to explain anything to you, Chris. You don't have an honest intellectual curiosity and don't value any opinion that doesn't mirror your own deeply ingrained prejudices, I'm afraid.
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May-1st-2003, 10:15 PM
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We are the only reality
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Monte,
I'm happy that the military on board are coming home. I'm sad that they are ALL not coming home. Period.
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May-1st-2003, 10:19 PM
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I have to say, although I disagree with probably the great bulk of Monte's political views, he's always respectful in his political banter and his posts (even this pro-W shit, perish the thought!) are never without an aire of intelligence. Which is much more than can be said of most people. The number one reason I don't like to talk politics with people, even friends, is that they almost always fly off the handle and get really pissed off and irrational really fast when you disagree with them.
I couldnt bring myself to watch tonight. And I doubt I'll be watching anymore of these speeches. I watched em all for the first year or so, made a point not to miss any if at all possible. I wanted to give the guy as fair a shake as I could, after all. But now watching them gives me almost the exact same feeling (albeit a little less nausea, but more depressing) than watching clinton in his second term. the second half of his first term too for that matter.
No sir, I dont care for W. not one bit.
I bet the military absolutely loves him though. and stuff like flying in the way he did probably gives them all bush-boners.
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May-1st-2003, 10:53 PM
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holier than thou
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I bet the military absolutely loves him though. and stuff like flying in the way he did probably gives them all bush-boners.
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My grandfather told me that a boner in the bush is better than one in the hand...........
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May-1st-2003, 11:42 PM
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End The War
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I have to agree with Chris regarding the deterioration of the education system since the other actor was in office. This country's status as an educated country, filled with people who can actually develop an individual thought has slipped below the horizon. What better way to raise a country of controllable citizens, easily manipulated by marketing and repetitive suggestion. WORK BUY CONSUME
Couldn't watch tonight. I saw enough this morning to last all day, being the national day of prayer and all. I do enjoy seeing the men coming home to their families though. I know my daughter and her kids used to wait for my son-in-law in the same way. These guys really put out for their country. Too bad there are so many snakes in the Administration willing to give them the shaft, now and after they have completed their tours of duty. What a bunch of shameless sob's. Mark my words on this one. More money arms and less money for the men and their families.
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May-2nd-2003, 12:18 AM
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Chris, I disagree with every point in your last post...except on Nixon, who you sum up admirably. I think I disagree with you on fundamentals. That is why I am not going to try to change your mind or enlighten you on how people you deride as fools can swallow W's "evil schemes."
Except to say that I'd probably share your take on today's speech if I, too, listened to it with my fingers in my ears chanting "He's not the President lah lah lah I'm not listening."
Salvador: thanks for the kind words. I am reminded of my many flaws with remarkable consistency on this board. I am humbly grateful when someone recognizes the positive qualities I do try to bring to my posts. Good people can disagree about anything without turning it into an abject piss fest, I hope.
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May-2nd-2003, 04:55 PM
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Good news:
Liberals Meet Unexpected Resistance
April 30, 2003
THOUGH MANY had anticipated a cakewalk for the media in undermining the war on terrorism, instead liberals are caught in a quagmire of good news about the war. Predictions that liberals would have an easy time embarrassing President Bush have met unexpected resistance. They're still looking for the bad news they said was there. Experts believe the media's quagmire results from severely reduced troops. The left's current force is less than half the size of the coalition media that undermined the Vietnam War.
It's been a tough few weeks all around for the anti-war crowd. On Sunday, the London Telegraph reported that documents had been discovered in Baghdad linking Saddam Hussein to Osama bin Laden. Hussein and bin Laden had a working relationship as far back as 1998, based on their mutual hatred of America and Saudi Arabia. As we go to print, it's Day Four of the New York Times' refusal to mention these documents.
Government documents have also been found in Iraq showing that a leading anti-war spokesman in Britain, Member of Parliament George Galloway, was in Saddam Hussein's pay. Scott Ritter, former U.N. arms inspector turned peacenik turned suspected pederast, immediately defended Galloway in a column in the London Guardian. With any luck, Tariq Aziz will now step in to defend Ritter.
At least Tariq Aziz knows he lost the war. American liberals are still hoping for a comeback. But the war was so successful, they don't have any arguments left. They can't even sound busy. In their usual parody of patriotism, liberals are masters of the long-winded statement that amounts to nothing. They can't go on TV and say nothing. But all they have are some broken figurines to complain about.
They said chemical weapons would be used against our troops. That didn't happen. They predicted huge civilian casualties. That didn't happen. They said Americans would turn against the war as our troops came home in body bags. That didn't happen. They warned of a mammoth terrorist attack in America if we invaded Iraq. That didn't happen. Just two weeks ago, they claimed American troops were caught in another Vietnam quagmire. That didn't happen.
Now the biggest mishap liberals can seize on is that some figurines from an Iraqi museum were broken – a relief to college students everywhere who have ever been forced to gaze upon Mesopotamian pottery. We're not talking about Rodins here. So the Iraqis looted. Oh well. Wars are messy. Liberalism is part of a religious disorder that demands a belief that life is controllable.
At least we finally got liberals on the record against looting. It seems the looting in Iraq compared unfavorably with the "rebellion" in Los Angeles after the Rodney King verdict. When "rebels" in Los Angeles began looting, liberals said it was a sign of frustration – they were poor and hungry. As someone noted at the time, apparently they were thirsty as well, since they hit a lot of liquor stores. Meanwhile, the Iraqis were pretty careful about targeting the precise source of their oppression. Their looting concentrated on Saddam's palace, official government buildings – and the French cultural center.
However many precious pots were stolen, it has to be said: The Iraqi people behaved considerably better than the French did after Americans liberated Paris. Thousands of Frenchmen were killed by other Frenchmen on allegations of collaboration with the Nazis. Subsequent scholarship has shown that charges of "collaboration" were often nothing more than a settling of personal grudges and family feuds. This was made simple by the fact that so many Frenchmen really did collaborate with the Nazis. The French didn't seem to resent the Nazi occupation very much. Nazi occupation is their default position. They began squirming only after Americans came in and imposed democracy on them.
Despondent over the success of the war in Iraq, liberals tried to cheer themselves up with the politics of personal destruction – their second favorite hobby after defending Saddam Hussein. Responding to the question of whether the Supreme Court should hold sodomy to be a fundamental constitutional right, Republican Sen. Rick Santorum made the blindingly obvious point that a general right to engage in consensual sex would logically include adultery, polygamy and any number of sex acts prohibited by the states.
For the limited purpose of attacking Santorum, liberals agreed to stipulate that adultery is bad. After spending all of 1998 ferociously defending adultery as something "everyone" does and "everyone" lies about, liberals claimed to be shocked to the core that anyone would compare homosexuality to such a morally black sin as adultery. (While we're in a sensitive mood, how about the name "the DIXIE Chicks"? Isn't that name provocative to African-Americans?)
When you get liberals to come out against both looting and adultery in the same week, you know the left is in a state of total disarray. They shouldn't feel so bad. Their boys put up a good fight in Iraq for 17 days.
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May-3rd-2003, 12:13 AM
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Scott, don't let's be beastly to the liberals.
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May-3rd-2003, 10:07 AM
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Plus ça change...
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Liberals Meet Unexpected Resistance
April 30, 2003
Just out of curiosity, who wrote that ad copy, and in what rag did it appear?
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