The Bush Lynch mob

I have left JC. If my deletions disrupt continuity, please accept my apology, but JC is no longer the place to be, as far as I am concerned.

[Tanager]

Originally posted by Chris A
1) They say her arms and legs were broken. Hard to think of an accident that would do all that. And there were 8 or 9 dead GIs where she was. If they had been killed in the battle, the Iraqis would not have dragged them to thehospital. Maybe they were wounded, and all died of their wounds, but that sounds unlikely.

What seems likely is that those deaths, and Jessica's broken limbs, were the indirect result of the Heroic Rescue. It's common sense that one of the dangers in a rescue attempt like that is that when the captors see that rescue is coming, they kill the prisoners rather than have them taken away. If it turns out that the 8 or 9 died just when the rescue was taking place, that would be pretty strong evidence that it was the rescue that killed them.

With all due respect Chris, to say that this guy didn't fall for the deception is disingenous, since it implies you're taking his assertions as fact, when he's clearly just speculating.

As for the accident, it's not that hard to imagine, especially considering they describe Lynch as having multiple blunt-force trauma wounds to other parts as well. Hell, I've blown my elbow out riding a freakin' bicycle, I'm guessing you could break more than that in a car. BWTFDIK.

You know perfectly well I am no apologist for the Bushcheneyrumscroft machine, and I detest each of them individually as well. But this fellow's take is no more credible as factual reporting than the official military accounts you dispute.

(And the *second* flag-raising at Iwo (the pose used for the statue) was a Marine photo op...the first and real one was not.)

[Darryl G. Thomas]

Man, I `m not touching this one with a foot long pole.

What I'm feeling is both side will be using this episode for their own purposes. The Administration trying to create a Sgt. York/Audie Murphy type of hero and Iraqis trying to kiss up to their new masters.

What you had here was a 19 year old kid who joined the Army to get out of her dead-end town and wound up in a situation totally out of her control.

I'm on her side. She's got months of therapy ahead, ther's no telling what's going on in her head right now, and for the next year or two her entire life will be on public display.

Hopefully she'll get more out of this than just the GI Bill.

[lynn]

I think I'd have amnesia too.

[Dr Dave]

Amnesia definitely seems like the best option right about now.

[patricia]

Whether this was a propaganda opportunity, or kindness to an injured young girl in a scary situation will probably never be told. If she hadn't "developed amnesia" about the incident, she would have been dogged for months. She probably just wants to get back to her life. I would develop amnesia too, if it looked like I was going to be used for whatever purpose the administration wanted to use me.

[Ron Thorne]

Perhaps I missed many important things, but there's also the chance that Jessica was encouraged to "develop" amnesia.

[patricia]

Originally posted by Ron Thorne
Perhaps I missed many important things, but there's also the chance that Jessica was encouraged to "develop" amnesia.

Exactly what I was thinking. Perhaps she didn't want to confirm the idea that the press and the administration was promoting.
Maybe she was treated exactly the way the hospital staff said and that doesn't make such a dramatic story. If she was going to say that she was grateful for her treatment and developed a close relationship with the staff who treated her, that doesn't fall in with the "dramatic rescue from the clutches of the godless heathen". Saying nothing is a lot easier than opposing the prevailing view of the incident. We'll probably never know.

[Ron Thorne]

Thank you, Patricia!

[lynn]

This administration can't afford for "Their" enemy to be sympathetic and caring, nor skilled and intellegent. The report in the Canadian press seems to be credible and exactly the reaction people would have to a slight, 19 year old little girl who had survived a really bad car accident. The fact that they gave her priority access to their scarse medical supplies flies in the face of the picture painted by Rumsfeld and friends.

Are we now free to say the monsters in the closet are the guys dropping clusterbombs. They make such fun toys for kids.

http://www.hrw.org/arms/clusterbombs.php

Now we're talking WOMDs.

[Tanager]

Just to clarify my position (lest I get thrown in with the Administration's apologists), I too find the report of her humane treatment at the hands of the Iraqi medics entirely credible. I was questioning the credibility of the second article Chris posted, the one in which Lummis made equally unfounded assertions as to what he suspects took place.

[Tanager]

If he's drawing "conclusions," then he's way ahead of the game, b/c I doubt he, much less anyone else, knows enough to "draw conclusions" about how Lynch actually got injured, for one. He's speculating, nothing more.

[Tanager]

A colleague of mine does a *killer* Miss Cleo impersonation. I only wish it translated to text...

Well this clearly proves that we should get our fucking troops out of the United States!!!!! HOw many more must die before Bush realizes how stupid he's been for putting them in such danger??!!

[willy]

Agreed. It's safer in Iraq than in the US. You're more likely to be gunned down in LA or Washington DC than killed in Baghdad by one of those militant extremists crossing the border into Iraq and killing US soldiers.

[las.vegas.lynn]

Man, you two are pathetic.

[jesus marion joseph]

Who is Bush Lynch?

C'mon Lynn, who are we trying to kid anymore? You want me, I want you, the hell with it, lets get married!!!!

We can give up everything here and move to New Zealand and buy a ranch where we can raise kiwi for the rest of our days!! It may not be that lucrative, but we won't need no stinkin money. We'll survive off of our intense passion for each other.

What do you say?

Originally posted by jesus marion joseph
Who is Bush Lynch?

Bush Lynch Mob! East side respresentin G!

Damn JMJ, your gangsta rap knowledge is sorely lacking.

[jesus marion joseph]

Originally posted by Scott Dolan
Bush Lynch Mob! East side respresentin G!

Damn JMJ, your gangsta rap knowledge is sorely lacking.

I guess it's one of those "if you have to ask" deals..........

[las.vegas.lynn]

Thanks Scott, but, I think you and Willie have more in common and would make a lovely yet unconventional couple.

Alright, playing hard to get eh?

I have yet begun to woo.....................................

[john williams]

[patricia]

Jessica Lynch is being interviewed by Dianne Sawyer and, from what I can gather from the pre-publicity, she's going to say much the same thing as she did in the BBC interview.

"I Am A Soldier Too - The Jessica Lynch Story"
Article in the Calgary Herald Nov 7

"Jessica Lynch, the American soldier taken prisoner during the Iraq war and rescued in a highly publicized operation, was raped by her captors, her authorized biography reveals.
The 20-year old private has no memories of the assault which took place in the hours after her convoy was ambushed near Nasiriyah in March, the book says.
But a medical examination cited in "I Am A Soldier Too -The Jessica Lynch Story" published next week indiates the 20-year old from West Virginia was sexually assaulted during her captivity.
"The records do not tell whether her captors assaulted her almost lifeless, broken body after she was lifted from the wreckage, or if they assaulted her and then broke her bones into splinters until she was almost dead" it says."
......."The 207 page book was waritten by former New York Times reporter Rick Bragg who resigned from the times in May AFTER THE NEWSPAPER SUSPENDED HIM OVER A STORY THAT CARRIED HIS BYLINE BUT WAS REPORTED LARGELY BY A FREELANCER.[my emphasis]"

........"Initial reports sanctioned by the Pentagon suggested Lynch had heroically resisted capture, emptying her rigle's magazine in a fierce exchange of gunfire.
In the book, she admits the weapon jammed. "I didn't kill nobody," she says.

In the ABC interview, Lynch corrected early reports that she fired her rifle to fend off her attackers. She said her weapon jammed and she was unable to fire a single round. She also said she was not slapped while being treated in the hospital.

Mohammed al-Rehaief, the Iraqi lawyer credited with helping to save Lynch, has said he went to the U.S. Marines after seeing her being slapped in the hospital. "


>>>>Doesn't make such a dramatic story if all the Iraqis did was rescue Lynch and take her fellow soldiers, who were dead, to the nearest hospital and morgue. Why would they bother taking Lynch and her dead comrades to the hospital??? The apparant rape angle certainly would outrage a lot of Western people, but how likely is it that an accident victim, taken to the hospital and treated kindly by the staff was raped on the road beforehand??
None of the official version made sense to me.<<<<<<