television

[Steve Reynolds]

not jazz

but

heavy duty

speak wisely


love to all

[Rob Damen]

Marquee Moon, baby.

Cheers,

Rob

[Rob Damen]

Yo' Steve!

I've never picked up "Marquee Moon" on CD.

Is the remaster with all of the additional tracks worth picking up?

Cheers,

Rob

[Dr Dave]

I get ideas
I get a notion
I want a nice little boat
Made out of ocean

'Cause what I want
I want now
And it's a whole lot more
Than "anyhow"

[john williams]

Originally Posted by Rob Damen

Is the remaster with all of the additional tracks worth picking up?

Yes, the alternate/extra tracks are very worthwhile. It's sounds fantastic too.

[Rob Damen]

Originally Posted by JBW

Yes, the alternate/extra tracks are very worthwhile. It's sounds fantastic too.

The reason I asked is because some records, especially some of the late 70's records, really sound totally different after they've finished screwing with them. Plus, "Marquee Moon" doesn't sound like it was orginally recorded under optimum conditions and sometimes the companies try to alter the records so that it does sound "right" when they should leave well enough alone.

Often times, I try to keep my vinyl.

Cheers,

Rob

[edpack]

I think Television has produced the most interesting rock music of the past 30 years. And the great part is, they're still doing it! I caught them a few weeks ago at Roseland, where they played what seemed like some new material, and they sounded great. In the whole set, I don't think I heard one cliche riff. Two great, adventurous guitarists, great songs, zero stage presence, but who cares?

[james harrigan]

what is this thread about?

[Jim Dye]

Did someone say Television?

Hit it, boys!

one nation
under God
has turned into
one nation under the influence
of one drug

[chorus:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(2x)

T.V., it
satellite links
our United States of Unconsciousness
Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive
The methadone metronome pumping out
150 channels 24 hours a day
you can flip through all of them
and still there's nothing worth watching
T.V. is the reason why less than 10 per cent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central Amerika
means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
and Apartheid is a new headache remedy
absorbed in it's world it's so hard to find us
It shapes our mind the most
maybe the mother of our Nation
should remind us
that we're sitting too close to...

[Chorus:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(2x)

T.V. is
the stomping ground for political candidates
Where bears in the woods
are chased by Grecian Formula'd
bald eagles
T.V. is mechanized politic's
remote control over the masses
co-sponsored by environmentally safe gases
watch for the PBS special
It's the perpetuation of the two party system
where image takes precedence over wisdom
Where sound bite politics are served to
the fastfood culture
Where straight teeth in your mouth
are more important than the words
that come out of it
Race baiting is the way to get selected
Willie Horton or
Will he not get elected on...

[Chorus:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(2x)

T.V., is it the reflector or the director?
Does it imitate us
or do we imitate it
because a child watches 1500 murders before he's
twelve years old and we wonder why we've created
a Jason generation that learns to laugh
rather than to abhor the horror
T.V. is the place where
armchair generals and quarterbacks can
experience first hand
the excitement of warfare
as the theme song is sung in the background
Sugar sweet sitcoms
that leave us with a bad actor taste while
pop stars metamorphosize into soda pop stars
You saw the video
You heard the soundtrack
Well now go buy the soft drink
Well, the onla cola that I support
would be a union C.O.L.A.(Cost Of Living Allowance)
On television

[Chorus:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(2x)

Back again, "New and improved"
We return to our irregularly programmed schedule
hidden cleverly between heavy breasted
beer and car commercials
CNNESPNABCTNT but mostly B.S.
Where oxymoronic language like
"virtually spotless", "fresh frozen"
"light yet filling" and "military intelligence"
have become standard
T.V. is the place where phrases are redefined
like "recession" to "necessary downturn"
"Crude oil" on a beach to "mousse"
"Civilian death" to "collateral damages"
and being killed by your own Army
is now called "friendly fire"
T.V. is the place where the pursuit
of happiness has become the pursuit of
trivia
Where toothpaste and cars have become
sex objects
Where imagination is sucked out of children
by a cathode ray nipple
T.V. is the only wet nurse
that would create a cripple

[Chorus:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(4x)


Artist: Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy

Title: Television, The Drug Of The Nation

[Il Anto]

I never really got into Television as they just never really crossed my radar. They're another band slipped through the cracks.

Should I start with "Marquee Moon"?

[Captain Hate]

Originally Posted by Il Anto

Should I start with "Marquee Moon"?

Absolutely, it is a classic. Unlike Reynolds I don't go into orgasmic spasms over their comeback disc just titled "Television". I'd choose a few of Verlaine's solo discs before going there.

[Chris D]

I, I see, I see no, EVIL!

[Librarian]

I picked up a vinly copy of "Adventure" and now find myself wandering around my place of work chanting "Foxhole! Foxhole!" Is the live album "The Blow Up" worth checking out?

[Captain Hate]

Originally Posted by Librarian

Is the live album "The Blow Up" worth checking out?

I like it but the recording quality is pretty crummy. It has a nice version of "Little Johnny Jewel" that's almost 15 minutes long. On the other hand it's littered with a throwaway version of "Satisfaction". Enough was reached on that a long time ago.

[Dr Dave]

Originally Posted by Chris D

I, I see, I see no, EVIL!

Yeah!

"I start to spin the tale
you complain of my dick-tion
You Give Me Friction
But I Dig Friction
You Know I'm Crazy About Friction!"

[HenryMc]

If you can find the double CD on ROIR - its got a great version of Little Johnny Jewell - 15 minutes of jazzlike (not jazzy) riffing and repetition. (Edited: Its the blow up - and yeah crummy sound but Little Johnny Jewell is worth the price of admission - avoid the capitol album!!!)

[BFrank]

The live "Waldorf" album on Rhino (that recently went OOP) was a nice recording from the late 70's. If you see it around, pick it up. It's already attracting premium prices on ebay, though.

[Dr Dave]

"Dreamtime" is a very worthwhile Verlaine solo effort.



Sample lyric:

you're a graduate of the Reemco School of Numbness
and you walk in here with your fifteen degrees
telling everyone you knew they must be some kind of puppet
and how the big mirage it is your specialty

I gotta keep about a mile from you
I gotta keep about a mile from you
arm's length just won't do
I gotta keep about a mile from you

Your kindness to strangers, your cruelty to your friends...
a new czar in the nothing regime
Twenty miles of hallways of burning glass
that's just where that kind of stuff will end.

[Chris D]

I loved Verlaine's first solo album. Bowie did, too; he did a great version of "Kingdom Come" on "Scary Monsters."

Tonight, the air has teeth.
I gotta find another way to breathe.
...
And all, all you ever say, all, all you ever say, all you ever say is
Stop breakin' in my heart.

[BFrank]

This is an excellent compilation. One disk is a "greatest hits" from both Television and Verlaine solo albums. The second disk is live stuff from a "solo" tour in the early 80's - primo recordings!

[steve(thelil)]

For some bizarre reason, they never crossed my radar either. I say bizarre because I owned a sealed Television album and 2 (open) Verlaine LPs for maybe 20 years (I pick up anything that I can if it's supposed to be interesting and is REALLY cheap). I sold the Television LP and one of the Verlaines recently, in my new incarnation as record dealer. I guess something I once read made me think it wouldn't be my cup of chai. And I'm probably wrong about that. BUT...the good news is that I have Words from the Front on sale on ebay right as we speak or make noises or whatever.

So why don't you look at my ebay auctions at :
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopage...sortpropertyZ1

This is relevant to the thread. So don't tell me to post it in classifieds. Or tell me whatever you want. In fact, ust overbid for the cool stuff (not much jazz) I'm selling at the moment and abuse me however you'd like.

Thank You

[frankiepop]

I owned a sealed Television album and 2 (open) Verlaine LPs for maybe 20 years

all kidding aside, you bought these years ago and now you are selling them. further, you never took 20 min's or so to even check them out even once?

have u listened to the boz skags? are there any others on the list that u never heard.

[steve(thelil)]

I've listened to almost all of them. For years I bought way more than I could listen to, whenever I could get a deal. Most I listened to. Most I even looked at as "mine". Some I never even thought about, out of habit or because they were in an attic or a closet. It is extremely rare that I would own more than one LP by an artist and never listened to it.

With Televsion/Verlaine for some reason I never even thought about playing them, or even noticing the LPs. Maybe because I was under the impression that I didn't like the band based on something of theirs I heard at one time or something I heard or read years ago. Also, until a year or so ago, I was buying and listening to so much jazz and was so uninvolved with rock music that I never played any rock that i wasn't already into. I also hardly played vinyl for the last 20 years. It's like the people you see at work or something who never say hello so you just got into the habit of not saying hello when you see them.

Recently, I've rediscovered vinyl and have become obsessed with it. (I now prefer it and have basically played records only for the last month or 2. That could change again). I guess that's part of the reason I've been listening to alot of rock/blues/folk - because I have it around in vinyl and I don't have much jazz in vinyl. I do have alot of fusion in vinyl that I bought in the late 70's and very early 80's, but I haven't had the urge to play too much of that, either.

[frankiepop]

well give television a quick spin...they're pretty good.

read reynolds insightful post:

not jazz

this phrase IS correctomundo...i dont think it is jazz either.

but

heavy duty

i think that means 'it's good, mannnn, after u smoke some grass. that doesnt mean it isnt good before you smoke some grass either.

speak wisely


love to all

i dont know what to say about the speak wisely part...but reynolds is saying he loves you, thelil, and so does jesus. reynold's a lovey kinda tree huggin' hippie kinda guy. i sincerely believe that he should move to boulder colo. he would be happier there.

[steve(thelil)]

I wish we all enjoyed your bizarrely off-target personal dig posts as much as you appear to.

[BFrank]

There's a "Live At The Old Waldorf" on ebay right now with a starting price of $45.99. Definitely too high. A sealed one went for around $42 recently.