Micor$oft OS Suck

Henry Mars · March-23rd-2003, 01:27 AM

I have had to work with Win2k exclusively for the last two weeks for a school project ........ it crashed and burned. It took most of the day to reinstall every thing. The emergency repair process choked too.

M$ .... you can buy better, but you can't spend more.

I can't wait to start running LINUX again .... it it better an it is almost free.

Sergio Zamora · March-23rd-2003, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by Henry Mars
IIt took most of the day to reinstall every thing. The emergency repair process choked too.

And of course find the right source code for linux drivers, finding the right compiler, modifying the make files, compiling, configuring them, and praying that they actually work...yeah, that takes no time.

Henry Mars · March-23rd-2003, 01:50 AM

Yes but once every thing is set up it dosen't crash .... it just keeps on tickin'

moneyp · March-23rd-2003, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by Henry Mars
I have had to work with Win2k exclusively for the last two weeks for a school project ........ it crashed and burned. It took most of the day to reinstall every thing. The emergency repair process choked too.

You likely had a poorly-installed version.

I've had Windows 2k running on this machine for over two years with nary a crash.

Not that I don't agree with your assessment of Windows products in general...

Omar: Windows installs are still longer.

Kevin Bresnahan · March-23rd-2003, 07:26 AM

I agree with Mone, you must have an installation with a bad driver or drivers. I'd check your video driver 1st as they seem to affect operation the most. Windows2000 is simply Windows NT 5.0. If someone upgraded to Win2K from 95 or 98 without getting all new drivers, they would be hosed. NT and 95/98/ME don't play together. For the last 4 years, I have been using Win2K with absolutely no problems.

Recently, both my home and work PCs have migrated to Windows XP Professional. I LOVE this. Nary a glitch. I even got it to start up and shut down faster by downloading Microsoft's bootvis.exe (it's on their web site for free).

So, while I've had many operating system troubles in the past, lately it's been smooth sailing.

BTW, you do have a current virus program running I hope? Many viruses mess around with your OS and begin slowing killing your PC. Also, Win2K has trouble if you are hooked onto a local newtwork and you "mount" an external drive. If you have any external drives mounted, dismount them and see if the problems go away.

And scan your drive for viruses!

Later,
Kevin

Henry Mars · March-23rd-2003, 08:23 AM

I agree that Win2k is more stable than the other M$ OS'. The problem was that the registry got screwed up. I don't hate WIN 2K ..... it is not as stable as UNIX period. The registry is like a great beast even with install shields it gets bigger and bigger.

Also FWIW I am an MCSE .... I am well versed on M$ security risks.

Nathaniel Catchpole · March-23rd-2003, 08:30 AM

When I first bought this 'puter, me and a mate co-installed red hat and win 98 onto the harddrive (a process that took us about 10 hours - had to use both f-disk and some freeware of the internet to get all the partitions right). After installing it and being pleased with the speed and customisation of it, I couldn't work out how to install a program, so eventually wiped it and reinstalled Windows. Real shame, since both the idea and the stability of Linux were very attractive, but when I checked out some Linux mags, I realised I was probably one of the first non-programmers (this was about 3 years ago) to try it. Had to admit defeat.

Maybe if I upgrade this computer I'll keep this hardrive and put Linux on it again. Too much like hard work.

kc bob · March-23rd-2003, 09:02 AM

My work desktop runs Win2K Pro for months or longer w/out rebooting but I prefer XP. Be sure you load the latest Service Packs, which is easy as pie under Windows Update.

As a UNIX head for 18+ years and an early contributer to Linux/BSD, I still don't find Linux usable as a desktop computer even with the major improvements recently. Most of my devices don't even have Linux drivers and then there is the limited number of special interest software. It's great for just a web machine though. Linux has dominated as a server but until most every MS developer also ports to Linux, it has a long way to go on the desktop.

Henry Mars · March-23rd-2003, 09:50 AM

kc Bob,
The only device that LINUX has failed to detect is the TV tuner on my video card. In the past two years I have had virtually no problems with anything else on my LINUX box. There are TV cards that will work .... I just have to buy one. There are several "desktop" oriented LINUX distros ...... most of them are user friendly and stable. I have some of my students using LINUX as newbies and they hare using it with no problems. The old desktop argument is so "three years ago".
The only down side to LINUX is it you are a game player, it hasn't caught up yet ..... but it will. People are getting sick of M$'s shit.

moneyp · March-23rd-2003, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Henry Mars
I agree that Win2k is more stable than the other M$ OS'. The problem was that the registry got screwed up. I don't hate WIN 2K ..... it is not as stable as UNIX period. The registry is like a great beast even with install shields it gets bigger and bigger.

Also FWIW I am an MCSE .... I am well versed on M$ security risks.

Henry: Do a google for "Karen's Power Tools" and look for Karen's Registry Pruner. A great tool for keeping the reg clean!

Kevin Bresnahan · March-23rd-2003, 01:12 PM

I have never had one single registry problem with Win2K. I used to have them all the time with Windows 98. Doesn't Win2K come with System Restore? If it does, problem solved. I love this application. It has made my life a lot easier. In the old days, when the inevitable "My computer stopped working right" calls came in, I had to have them click & click & click all night. Now I just say, "Run system restore and tell when your last restore point was." Yeee hah!

Mone, I'll have to look into that registry application. While I've yet to have any registry problems with XP, it doesn't hurt to check into new programs as a hedge to future problems.

Later,
Kevin

Henry Mars · March-23rd-2003, 02:45 PM

In order for the EMP to run you have to update the ERD each time a change is made and restore the system state data. It dosent always work ...., you see you have to be able to get to the system state data and I couldn't get to it ....... as I said the system was toasted.
If you are running RIS in an AD environment, or using Ghost Enterprise you could suck down another image ..... that was not an option here.
M$ = "bloatware"

Sergio Zamora · March-23rd-2003, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by mone peterson
Henry: Do a google for "Karen's Power Tools" and look for Karen's Registry Pruner. A great tool for keeping the reg clean!

Doesn't regclean.exe do the same thing? Back when I was coding a lot of COM stuff, it saved my ass more than once (Now with .NET, dll hell is a thing of the past!)

moneyp · March-23rd-2003, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by Sergio Zamora
Doesn't regclean.exe do the same thing? Back when I was coding a lot of COM stuff, it saved my ass more than once (Now with .NET, dll hell is a thing of the past!)

Omar, regclean has had it's share of problems, including instances of corrupting the registry. Registry Pruner, to my knowledge, hasn't had those issues.