January-16th-2005, 02:01 PM
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Reevaluating @ 500k
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Least Favorite Jazz Musician
Fight favoritism!
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January-16th-2005, 02:08 PM
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poor folk's child
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January-16th-2005, 02:11 PM
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Registered User
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ahem ....
the person pictured above is not a jazz musician ..
as for my least favorite one ..take a guess ..you'll get it in one...
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January-16th-2005, 02:12 PM
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"Long way from home"
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Ok...Dave Brubeck !
I like Paul Desmond's work , I like him (DB) as a person, I like his current saxophonist (who sounds a bit like Art Pepper)...but I CAN NOT STAND his piano playing...Repeat CAN NOT...EVER!
RC.
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January-16th-2005, 02:14 PM
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Reevaluating @ 500k
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Originally Posted by Richardo Caerleoni
I like his current saxophonist (who sounds a bit like Art Pepper)...
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Bobby Militello. Competent but uninspired, IMO. Any resemblance to Pepper is purely coincidental.
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January-16th-2005, 02:22 PM
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poor folk's child
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Originally Posted by graypencil
the person pictured above is not a jazz musician ..
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We don't care when we list favorites, most or least.
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January-16th-2005, 02:31 PM
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"Long way from home"
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Pete...I don't know...I heard a broadcast concert by Brubeck over Christmas and was racing to switch it off...and then his saxophonist tookover (who appears to run the band? Bobby M, as you say...Ex Maynard F?) ...and I thought was quite impressive...maybe because Brubeck lays out a lot now and doesn't crash through everything/everybody/leaves some space...and there were shades of Art P...OK, as you say, maybe just adequate...but more edge than most of Brubeck's usual sidemen?
Maybe it was the wine....but I listened.
RC.
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January-16th-2005, 02:51 PM
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Be Afraid
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January-16th-2005, 02:59 PM
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"Long way from home"
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What...not even West End Blues?
You like the more commercial stuff obviously.
RC.
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January-16th-2005, 03:02 PM
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Next year....
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Last edited by GoodSpeak; February-21st-2005 at 12:07 AM.
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January-16th-2005, 03:20 PM
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Be Afraid
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Originally Posted by Richardo Caerleoni
What...not even West End Blues?
You like the more commercial stuff obviously.
RC.
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I don't like people who smile that much.
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January-16th-2005, 03:24 PM
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"Long way from home"
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Originally Posted by crawjo
I don't like people who smile that much.
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OK...you'll be sorry.
RC.
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January-16th-2005, 03:25 PM
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Be Afraid
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Another entertainer.
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January-16th-2005, 03:34 PM
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"Long way from home"
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Originally Posted by crawjo
Another entertainer.
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Ok, try Stan Tracy? I've known him for c. 40 years...and only seen him smile (once) when Stan Getz was in severe pain (backpain)...
Stan & Dex... mid 60s.
RC.
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January-16th-2005, 03:37 PM
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Tragically Impressionable
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I just cannot help myself:
but not based totally on musical inability alone.
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January-16th-2005, 03:47 PM
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Be Afraid
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Originally Posted by Richardo Caerleoni
Ok, try Stan Tracy? I've known him for c. 40 years...and only seen him smile (once) when Stan Getz was in severe pain (backpain)...
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Yeah, that's the kind of guy I like.
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January-16th-2005, 04:58 PM
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"Long way from home"
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Figures!
I love Stan Tracy very much (in a musical sense)/I've got drunk with him many times and Tony Oxely...but I have only seen him smile once...when Getz was grandstanding in the 60s...The "Sax Hero"...Getz took a hour to come on stage...to milk the applause...and then busted his disk (back)...so played in great pain...Stan (Tracy) laughed throughout the set. HE also used to play Dexter's pet phrases back at him...So, A wonderrful guy, but the most miserable bastard I've ever met. Then again, He had his reasons.
RC.
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January-16th-2005, 06:59 PM
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corporate whore
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Lester Young. I just don't like his sound at all.
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January-16th-2005, 07:24 PM
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"Long way from home"
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Originally Posted by vibes
Lester Young. I just don't like his sound at all.
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Vibes...Try "DB Blues"...and work forwards and backwards? Worked for Trane.
Still the most moving thing I've ever seen in jazz is the "Sound of Jazz"...CBS TV late 50s?...with Billie, Ben Webster, Coleman Hawkins , Gerry Mulligan et al?....and they take a round of solos on "Fine and Mellow"...Lester by this time is near the/his end...but take a gorgeous minimal solo...just few notes based on the scale...and Billie looks over to him, almost in tears...and it is a wonderful solo...and it still moves me to tears...
Do not (ever) miss out on Lester?
Best - RC.
Last edited by Richardo Caerleoni; January-16th-2005 at 07:28 PM.
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January-16th-2005, 07:27 PM
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Reevaluating @ 500k
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Originally Posted by vibes
Lester Young. I just don't like his sound at all.
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What a day, what a day, for an auto da fe.
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January-16th-2005, 07:32 PM
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Lester is not on trial, sir. You are.
My least favorite jazz musician, so easy:
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January-16th-2005, 07:34 PM
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Registered User
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Originally Posted by Pete C
What a day, what a day, for an auto da fe.
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Like taking Candide from a baby. 
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January-16th-2005, 07:38 PM
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Reevaluating @ 500k
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Originally Posted by Ron S
Like taking Candide from a baby. |
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January-16th-2005, 07:48 PM
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corporate whore
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So, yeah, that Lester Young guy...Don't like his sound.
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January-16th-2005, 08:04 PM
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"Long way from home"
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Originally Posted by vibes
So, yeah, that Lester Young guy...Don't like his sound. |
YOUR LOSS!
RC. 
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January-16th-2005, 08:07 PM
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corporate whore
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That's OK. We're not all going to feel the same way about everyone. I have a couple Lester Young CD's, and I just can't get into the way he plays, the breathy tone. But it's not like I've stepped on the man's grave or anything. If you like him, more power to you.
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January-16th-2005, 09:48 PM
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"Long way from home"
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Originally Posted by vibes
That's OK. We're not all going to feel the same way about everyone. I have a couple Lester Young CD's, and I just can't get into the way he plays, the breathy tone. But it's not like I've stepped on the man's grave or anything. If you like him, more power to you.
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"the breathy tone"....vibes...No problem. I got into jazz thro Ray Charles/David Newman...and Fathead's tenor tone (hard) led me to Coltrane....and for a few years (of trying to play) I couldn't listen to Coleman Hawkins or Ben Webster...it just sounded "dated"..."breathy" as you say...then, one day, it "clicked" into place...I think it was after hearing Archie Shepp trying to play like Ben Webster?
So, then I got Lester. I met Lucky Thompson and Don Byas in clubs ...and met and talked to Coltrane during his first European tour...and the entire thing...and the immense respect Trane had for all of them made sense. If you are interested, listen to them all on their own terms - Don Byas - as Griffin said...is the Tatum of the saxophone - but, exactly right, to each their own.
Best- RC.
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January-16th-2005, 10:02 PM
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Columnated ruins domino
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Well, I'm certainly not the biggest Scofield fan in the world. But at least I recognize that he has some integrity. So I'll go with the Yellowjackets.
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January-16th-2005, 10:41 PM
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Registered User
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Least Favorite
Gotta be Archie Shepp. His tenor sax tone is the audio equivalent of battery acid, and his soprano sound is even more abominable. I like many of his musical ideas, mind you, but sound-wise it's just horrific.
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January-16th-2005, 11:43 PM
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the cantilena of speech
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I've never heard Shepp on soprano, didn't even know he played it. A terrifying prospect.
It's spelled "Stan Tracey".
There are dozens of players I avoid but I can't think of any I'd single out head & shoulders above the rest.
Last edited by Nate Dorward; January-17th-2005 at 02:15 AM.
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